Father’s Day Top 5

I’m walking around the fabric store with my wife, kids, and mother-in-law. Fabric really isn’t in my wheelhouse, so I’m thinking about the message I’m going to preach at Christ’s Church on Father’s Day.

The topic is the top 5 things a man can do as a dad to influence his kids (mobile blogging in the store probably isn’t one of them). I’m going to hammer down on the fact that great dads live on mission with Jesus. My application will mention five ways this can be expressed in everyday life.

So throw me a bone–what are some ways that a dad can live on mission with Jesus that will influence his kids to become life-long followers of Jesus? Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel

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About Aaron

Aaron is a follower of Jesus. He's married to his smokin' hot wife Laura and is the father of three adorable girls. He enjoys a robust cigar, a complex root beer, a good movie, writing, football, thought-provoking books, and rousing discussions about subjects you're not supposed to talk about (like theology and politics). Religious people irritate him (because he once was one). He's on a quest to find the perfect dry rub and sauce for ribs.
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17 Responses to Father’s Day Top 5

  1. Roger Dixon says:

    I have enjoyed reading your blog off and on for the last year or so. I have been moved to start my own blog as I’ve read yours.

    I have a 4 year old boy and an 11 year old daughter and the one thing that I want for them is to live a Christ centered life. Until 2 years ago I lived as a worldly person would live. This is something that I am still working on myself. I’ve been a Christian for about 30 years (I’m 34 now) but I didn’t always live that way. I never forgot about God but I thought it was OK to run a muck so long as I was saved. I have learned from my experiences and I strive to pass that on to them.

    Exodus 10:3
    So Moses and Aaron went to Pharaoh and said to him, “This is what the LORD, the God of the Hebrews, says: ‘How long will you refuse to humble yourself before me? Let my people go, so that they may worship me.

    Pharaoh = world

    God Bless,
    Roger

  2. Larry says:

    So Im not a great Dad because I dont indoctrinate my child with things that cannot be proven factual like the Bible? In my opinion there’s no greater love a father can give to their child than the gift of allowing their child to form their OWN opinions and think independently. Obviously, it is my goal as a father and my hope that those independent thoughts steer toward good and moral things. In other words, I would hope my daughter would choose being a teacher over being a porn star. My hope that she would choose the former has nothing to do with religion. Even without religion I would want my child to do something that is helping others rather than do something that is self-serving. Yes, even WITHOUT religion it is STILL possible for people to desire that for their children.

    Before you say something like “well, you should ground her in Biblical things, then her foundation will be solid.” Can you explain the countless numbers of minister’s kids who “ground” their children in religious instruction and they end up rebelling and choosing negative, self-serving lifestyles? Even if my daughter ends up being gay (which I already know shes not) I will still love her and I will know that I never did anything in my parenting that steered her toward being gay but I DID allow her to make her OWN decisions about who she wants to be and what she wants to believe. I never condemned homosexuality in her upbringing either—which is probably why she didnt choose it. That’s the irony here. When religious people force the Bible onto their children, many become rebellious and do the opposite, but when you let your children think for themselves and you dont condone or condemn a particular issue, I believe most children end up choosing the lifestyle you want for them. I dont bash homosexuality, I just dont think its natural. I realize your post wasnt about homosexuality, that was just the example I decided to use to make points.

    How many Christians do you know that could say they’d STILL love their children EXACTLY the same if their child ended up gay? Actually, in reality, many would probably SAY they would, but, better question…..how many would actually would?

    If you want your children to become life-long followers of Jesus, let THEM decide to do that, dont force it on them. And if they DONT choose it—–I know this is going to sound crazy…..STILL love them the SAME anyway.

    • Aaron says:

      Hey Larry,

      Carrying on a conversation with you is like herding cats…

      As a Christian, the absolute worst thing I can do is say nothing about my beliefs to my kids. Kids will make up their minds eventually anyway. My duty as their father is, plain and simple, to help them love Jesus. Plain and simple. I don’t pound it into their heads. I don’t force them to memorize large chunks of Scripture. But I do read the Bible to them. I do pray with them. Most importantly, I do my best to live out my beliefs so that they can see what it’s like to live as a Christian. One day, they’re going to make up their minds as to whether or not they’ll make faith in Jesus their own. But to do nothing about it and simply hope they take a certain course is absolutely ludicrous for me to do as a follower of Jesus. If they chose to follow Him, praise be to God. If not, it will absolutely break my heart, but I will love them anyway.

    • Larry says:

      Aaron, you dont force it on your kids? Really? So, when they are old enough to choose if they dont want to go with you to church, you’re going to call a sitter or a friend to watch your kids and let them stay home? I bet that will be a big fat “NO”. Indoctrination is still indoctrination whether it is forced or not–but MOST Christians DO force it on their kids. I dont even like my daughter being indoctrinated in SCHOOL when she is taught that Lincoln was this great guy, freed the slaves…fine Christian man, etc….its all BULL. Lincoln was one of the worst presidents we ever had. Many people say he was even a homosexual and its a FACT that he had a very filthy mouth. He was also a racist and he cared nothing about the slaves. He only “freed” the slaves for political reasons, and the Emanicpation Proclamation was only valid in states and areas controlled by the Confederacy—which basically made the EP unenforcable and invalid. Slavery didnt end with the EP, it actually ended 8 months after Lincoln’s assassination with the ratification of the 13th amendment. But kids are taught so much BULL in school and they deify Lincoln—-why? Who knows? BUT, the government makes sure that you cant get a diploma and thus get a job unless you are indoctrinated in CRAPOLA.

      Here’s a great article about Lincoln:

      http://lincolntruth.blogdrive.com/archive/cm-04_cy-2008_m-04_d-24_y-2008_o-0.html

      • Aaron says:

        So, I can’t influence my kids with my belief, but you can run a “dictatorship” in your house and force your kids to be good. What if they choose not to be good? What happens if they want to go vandalize someone else’s property, or go shoplifting at Wally World? Things that I don’t think you’d approve of, and things that if they decided to do them, I’m guessing you’d hand out some consequences for. That’s the pot calling the kettle black, buddy.

        In my house, my kids abide by my rules until they leave. Once they’re on their own, they can make their own choices. I’ve got a limited amount of time to influence them in hopes that they will choose faith in Jesus. You’ve got a limited amount of time to influence your kids to… well, whatever you hope to influence them to.

        You don’t have to tell me about Lincoln, either. I agree with you on that stuff. A great speech writer, and that’s about it. It’s kinda tough to free slaves in another country, and botch up a war for nearly 3 years when you have superior resources and numbers, but you choose crap commanders.

      • Larry says:

        Aaron, youre spinning again buddy. There’s a BIG difference between ideology and discipline. There’s a BIG difference between raising your child to be humane toward other people and treat them with respect (when earned, I dont believe respect should be free) and enforcing an IDEOLOGY on them. Are you suggesting vandalizing someone’s car is the EXACT sae thing as holding a world view of a particular issue? Sure, your actions CAN be influenced by your ideology, but that’s not always true. If it was always true, then you’d have to agree that Christianity is dangerous because many Christians in history have murdered others (Crusades, George W. Bush, etc…), many were racist (Lincoln, Bill O Reilly, etc..). So, if you want to equate a person’s ideology with their actions, then you’re admitting that religion is dangerous.

  3. Larry says:

    Didnt mean to say “…how many would actually would”—cancel the first “would”. Im tired.

  4. Larry says:

    Oh, ok Aaron, I see we are now starting to play the Dave Willis game—not allow comments that do not violate any rules, but you just dont like them

    • Aaron says:

      Hey again Larry,

      Comments like this are why people cut you off. It makes you look like a troll looking to get a rise out of people. You assume you know the reason why I haven’t responded. You know what happens when you assume…

      As a rule, I don’t look at this blog on the weekends. I rarely post or respond to any comments I get. I had 4 comments in my inbox on Saturday–three from you. And honestly, most of your comments are nearly the length of novels. So I didn’t bother to do anything with them. Believe it or not, responding to your comments isn’t tops on my priority list. And for you to assume that I didn’t approve your comment because I “didn’t like it” is just plain rude, man. And completely not true.

      There will be days I don’t get to your comments. One, you bring up way too many topics at once, and I don’t have the time to get to every topic you bring up. So just stick to one thing at a time. Second, time isn’t unlimited for me (as I imagine it isn’t for you). If I don’t get to your comment right away, don’t assume I’m dodging. I don’t dodge. There may not be enough minutes in the day. So no more assuming comments.

      Our exchange thus far has been pretty decent the second time around. You’ve been pretty cordial, but this comment doesn’t sit well with me because it isn’t true. Don’t ruin it, because there won’t be a third time.

  5. Larry says:

    Aaron, the reason why I said you didnt approve it is because you didnt, at first. When I posted my first comment, there were ZERO posts under the story, so when I logged on and saw this Roger guy’s comment posted, I knew you had to have been on the site in order to approve his. My comment HAD to be there pending approval when you approved Roger’s, so I cant even say I “assumed” you didnt post it…you didnt. You obviously just kept it in limbo and now posted it after I commented about it.

  6. Larry says:

    Incase you come on here and say “Roger posted his comment way before you did”–it doesnt matter. If Roger posted his comment and my comment was posted 2 days later, you would still see both of our comments when you logon waiting for approval. Like I said, when I posted my comment, there were NO comments in the thread yet, so you had to have logged on and approved Roger’s and not mine. Im not trying to make a big deal out of this, but youre denying that you didnt approve my comment at the VERY time you approved Roger’s, and I wont let you do that, because you HAD to have seen both our comments pending your approval. I am just making my point and defending the fact that I dont make unsubstantiated accusations–they are usually based on facts, or things that would HAVE to be true. The ONLY way you could have seen Rogers comment waiting approval and not mine yet is if I was typing my comment at the very moment you was approving his—-but that cant be true, because after I posted my comment, I was still on your site a good 20 minutes after that. It took you longer than 20 minutes to click “approve”?

    • Aaron says:

      Wow, Larry. Do you seriously have this much time on your hands to tell people how to run their blogs? 4 comments? You’re wearing me out.

      • Larry says:

        Ahhh, I see you didnt deny what I said. So, in blowing my comment off, are you admitting it was true?

  7. Larry says:

    Are you done with our other thread? I was looking forward to your response on it.

    • Aaron says:

      Haven’t had time. Been wading through your 4 comments this morning about how to run my blog. Seriously. Chill out. Look at most of your comments–they’re HUGE. It takes time to wade through all that stuff. I’ll get to it when I get to it. And it isn’t today. Gotta be a work a little earlier than usual. So go find some patience… I’ll get there soon.

      • Larry says:

        I guess I’ll have to assume that since you refuse to refute what I claimed, it must be true. I think you have DaveWillis-itis. If what I said was bull, then tell me where I’m wrong, instead of giving me diversive comments like “Do you seriously have this much time on your hands to tell people how to run their blogs? 4 comments?” That didnt address my comment. That was only meant to serve as a diversion so other people reading the comments would side with you and think “yeah, that Larry has no life, huh, uh-huh, uh-huh”.

      • Aaron says:

        Larry,

        I don’t have time for this. I don’t have time to continue to respond to three and four comments at a time. I have a life beyond this blog, and I’m having to take time from that life to deal with your stuff, which, yes, for the most part I think is bull. But I’ve responded to enough of it as your demands for my time continue to increase.

        So I’m finished. I’ve answered as many of your comments as I had time for. You raise so many issues that there’s no possible way to get to them all, and it’s still not enough for you. And to try and get to three and four comments at a time is ridiculous, which you post at all hours of the day, and half of them now deal with how I run my blog. I wouldn’t come onto your blog and demand immediate answers, or assume that you’re ducking me if you didn’t have time to answer something immediately. But that’s what you’ve done here, and you’ve assumed that my time constraints are me either ducking you or approving of some of your ideas. None of that is true… yet you keep pushing it.

        I’ve dodged nothing. I’ve given what time I could–even delaying posting more stuff so that I can answer your massive comments. So, to quote the Bible again, I’m going to stop “casting my pearls before swine.” I hope it doesn’t offend you, but it shouldn’t–you’ve rejected it.

        So, I’m kindly and respectfully asking you to stop commenting on this blog–for good. Feel free to read it. Feel free to disagree with it. Feel free to yell and scream at the screen. Just keep your thoughts to yourself. Or go find some other “religion” blog to rant on.

        Thanks. It’s been an interesting discussion, up until this weekend.

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